Apr 17, 2018, 9:58 AM ET

James Comey responds to critics like President Trump in live interview


President Donald Trump's calls for James Comey to be jailed are "not normal," the former FBI director said in a live appearance on "Good Morning America" today.

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"That is not normal," Comey said. "That is not OK. First of all, he's just making stuff up. But, most importantly, the president of the United States is calling for the imprisonment of a private citizen, as he's done for a whole lot of people who criticize him. That is not acceptable in this country."

This morning's appearance on "Good Morning America" was the former FBI director's first live interview at the launch of his book tour, having already given taped interviews including his first with ABC News, which aired on Sunday.

Comey pointed to the tweets as examples of how he says Trump misunderstands or disrespects the rule of law.

"I hope people read the book and see why the rule of law is such an important value in this country, and key to that is that the president doesn't get to decide who goes to jail," Comey said of his new book, "A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership,” which was released today.

Trump's tweets and accusations have numbed the U.S. public, Comey said, expressing hope that his book will serve as a wake-up call.

“We’re numb to it,” he said. “We wake up in the morning and see the president of the United States is accusing people of crimes without evidence and pronouncing them guilty and saying they should be in jail. That should wake all of us up with a start, but there's been so much of it that we're a little bit numb and that's dangerous.”

PHOTO: James Comey appears on Good Morning America, April 17, 2018.ABC News
James Comey appears on "Good Morning America," April 17, 2018.

The tweets in question came April 15, hours before the airing of Comey's first interview with ABC News chief anchor George Stephanopoulos.

"The big questions in Comey’s badly reviewed book aren’t answered like, how come he gave up Classified Information (jail), why did he lie to Congress (jail), why did the DNC refuse to give Server to the FBI (why didn’t they TAKE it), why the phony memos, McCabe’s $700,000 & more?" Trump wrote.

A day later, Trump accused Comey of "[commiting] many crimes."

"Comey drafted the Crooked Hillary exoneration long before he talked to her (lied in Congress to Senator G), then based his decisions on her poll numbers. Disgruntled, he, McCabe, and the others, committed many crimes!" he tweeted Monday.

He discussed two recent incidents that Comey says demonstrates Trump's lack of understanding of the U.S. legal system was when he called the FBI's raids of his lawyer Michael Cohen's office, home and hotel room "an attack on our country."

PHOTO: ABC News chief anchor George Stephanopoulos speaks to James Comey on Good Morning America, April 17, 2018.Paula Lobo/ABC
ABC News chief anchor George Stephanopoulos speaks to James Comey on "Good Morning America," April 17, 2018.

"Yeah, it shows me he either doesn't know or doesn’t care what the rule of law looks like,” Comey said. “Nobody broke into anybody's office. It doesn't happen. The FBI gets a search warrant from a federal judge and conducts itself professionally, completely and politely by the accounts of the people involved. So it's a total distortion of the way things work.”

Trump’s recent pardoning of Scooter Libby, a chief of staff to then-Vice President Dick Cheney, was “an attack on the rule of law,” Comey said.

“There's a reason president George W. Bush, for whom Scooter Libby worked, refused to pardon him after looking at all the facts in the case. It was an overwhelming case. There's no reason that's consistent with justice to pardon him. And so it's an attack on the rule of law, in my view,” Comey said.

Comey also responded to the belief by some that he took cheap shots at the president in his book -- which were repeated in the ABC News special Sunday -- in commenting on the color of the president's skin, the size of his hands and the length of his tie.

"I'm not trying to make fun of President Trump. I'm not trying to make fun of anybody," he said, defending such descriptors as instances where he was trying to describe the scene for the reader.

"I'm trying to be an author,” he said, “and bring the reader into the room.”

PHOTO: A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership by James ComeyFlatiron Books
A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership by James Comey

Comey, 57, also raised concerns about former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who was his boss during the Obama administration. Lynch's actions during the Clinton email saga "worried" him, he said in his book and in the ABC News special.

In the hours before the interview aired, Lynch released a lengthy statement saying she "did what I always do: rise above politics and uphold the law." Comey never came to her with any concerns, she also noted.

When asked this morning whether he should have, Comey said, "maybe, but I really don't think so even in hindsight."

"There should have been a discussion about whether she should be involved in the matter but what she did was say, ‘I’m going to stay involved, but I'll accept his recommendation,’ which put me and the FBI in a terrible spot," he told Stephanopoulos today.

Personal history

Comey's book focuses on leadership and he pointed to two people -- one of whom he knows well and one he has never met -- who serve as examples for him.

The first is his wife of more than three decades, Patrice Comey. He described their courtship as "a series of events of me chasing her, trying to convince her to love me."

He discussed a moment of her leadership, which he says should serve as an example to others, that came in the wake of the death of their son Collin, who was "born healthy and died a little over a week later from a preventable infection."

PHOTO: Patrice Comey spoke to ABC News Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos during a 20/20 special that aired on Sunday, April 15, 2018. ABC News
Patrice Comey spoke to ABC News Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos during a "20/20" special that aired on Sunday, April 15, 2018.

“She made it her mission to try to change medical practice across the country so that all mothers will be tested for this bacteria, which is harmless to the moms but can kill their babies. And so if you have a baby today in the United States you are tested for group B strep and if you have it, you're treated with antibiotics during delivery and your baby will be fine,” he said.

“She took something awful and turned it into something good, which is the reason it's in the book, which is about leadership. It changed how I think about being a person and being a leader,” he added.

The second source of inspiration is a person better known to the world: NBA player LeBron James.

Comey called James "a man I've never met," whom he says he resembles "only in being the same height."

"I used to talk about him all over the FBI. He illustrates what the endless pursuit of excellence looks like. ... It's because he measures himself not against the others but against himself," Comey said.

He said that he read that James, whom he called “the best basketball player on the earth today,” looks for ways to improve his game during the off-season.

During his tenure at the FBI, Comey would extend that example to the bureau, saying, "we have to find parts of our game to make better -- look at LeBron James!"

ABC News' Kelly McCarthy contributed to this story.

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    Dictator Trump's BFF Putin has a room reserved for him at the Gulag Archipelago!

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    Which is weird because what ever happens to Trumpster, he won’t go to jail. At least while he’s da Prez.

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    Trump calls for anyone that disagrees with him to be jailed and the GOP agrees with him.
    Trump thinks that those that don't stand and applaud for him at the state of the union address should be charged with treason.

    and, the GOP silently or vocally agrees with him. (We have a very bad system of checks and balances).

  • Lori Connor

    The headline was very misleading. "Comey responds to critics like Trump" implies that he is responding in a manner that Trump would respond, such as bellicose. Or it implies that he is responding to more than one critic, when the only critic that the article actually covers, is Trump. The headline should have read "Comey responds to Trump". Or if the article is talking about multiple people and their response to the book, "Comey responds to critics such as Trump...". Editing, people!

  • FlorMedDoc

    I read the first 50 pages or so last night and it was really hard to put it down. His story is compelling and really explains how he ended up at the FBI and the importance of a higher morality and leadership.

    His prosecution of La Cosa Nostra is quite interesting and his description of how the mafia leaders run the organization explains why he said Trump's actions are similar to that of the mob.

  • Jrducky

    I happened to be in Walmart yesterday when the book was released.
    I heard a couple clerks discussing the fact, of how fast the book was selling.
    The one stated that she and another employee had been stocking the shelf nearly hourly.
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  • tet1953

    The entire Trump presidency is abnormal, and it will end abnormally.

  • Fermer Votre Bouche

    There be NOTHING normal about Donald Trump Sr.

  • raymond spada

    The fawning sycophants of Congress better grow a backbone before we're under the thumb of a American Nero / Commodus. Men such as Trump drag Nations into irretrievable Decline .

  • Roger

    Trump is the spiritual descendant of Mussolini, Noriega, Castro and a thousand other tin horn petty dictators who wanted the throne for personal power to feed their insatiable ego. The US government was carefully designed to be the opposite through the Constitution. It called for loyalty to the country and the system of laws enshrined by it. Trump could care less and wants loyalty to him.

    Seriously although there have been thousands of these types throughout history never have we had one.

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  • Bronx

    Neither were Team Trump's calls to "lock her up" normal.
    There is nothing normal about this administration; nothing.
    And in a very bad way.

  • atta boy

    Trump is making our country look bad, really,really bad & it will get much worse. Hopefully someday the people will wake up & say enough is enough.

  • kritikosman

    Nothing about Trump is normal.

  • wildernes5

    Neither is it normal for an FBI director to be partisan and use the resources of this institution for partisan purposes.

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    Of course it isn't normal. Trump isn't normal. He's abnormal. Anyone with a cogent thought would not believe anything that comes out of Trump's mouth. This president is a danger to us all.

  • kareninmn

    My post was removed ... because I was quoting our president. His words get me kicked off, but he's allowed to Tweet without any supervision. Is that not the saddest thing you've ever heard? Other leaders are far from perfect - democrat and republican - but Trump has normalized vulgarity and lies like no other. Yes, I blame him. We all should.

  • mikevietvet68/69

    not like you Vulcan to get rattled,the poster taunting came from newsvine he is s teen who is smart but not street smart.

  • 1KRats

    Comey is a private citizen. He's entitled to his opinion as is Chief Pinocchio. The first amendment is still part of the Constitution at least for the time being. In all of the blustering by Chief Pinocchio there has not been any criminal charges laid against Comey. We live in a free country although it's looking a little tenuous.

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    I don't know what's on those tapes, but there's a lot of DOJ attorneys laughing pretty hard with ear phones on.

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    I can't wait to see Trump go to jail!

  • Robin

    Ha, Donnie filed for a tax return extension. Can't he just have a CPA do it? Pay up like the rest of us.